Thursday, July 26, 2012

Is there any point in arguing biblical truths with non-believers?




Last night I spent 2 hours in a biblical debate with two non-believers. Two things I learned about that conversation;

1. It was a waste of my time.


2. It was a waste of my time.


Here’s why, In Mark 4 Jesus tells us that the "mystery of the kingdom of God" is nothing more than a parable to non-believers, something that is hard to figure out. They don't have the wisdom of God, and the Spirit of God, giving them understanding, so is it pointless to argue religious beliefs with a non-believer? Especially if they don't really want to know, they just want to answer? I'm not talking about witnessing, or talking about Salvation, or even talking to someone with an honest question. I mean discussing with someone who doesn't want to believe like you, they just want to debate or argue.


Just recently this week, I had an intense interaction with a professed atheist. Here is a simple fact. There is a clear divide between those who are true believers and those that “say” they are Christians, but don’t follow the Bible. It actually helped reaffirm what Scripture says about all non-believers: those who admit it, and those who say they believe, but are not truly saved. My conversation last night was from a post on my facebook. The non-Christian man insisted to convince me that Gods word was nothing more then a fairy tale. He even had a friend and they attempted to double team me. As a very well educated Christian man with formal educations in both ChristianSchools and a Christian College, I am very comfortable in Gods word and very secure in my walk that I welcome such pitiful conversations from the biblically ignorant, as this only gives me material for my blogs. Therefore I decided to dance with them, the journalist came out in me and I made up my mind that I would lead them down a road to see where this would take us, so I manipulated the conversation. This is called Controlled Manipulation, Something I am very good at doing, and very seasoned at as well.

These two men were like little mice going for the cheese, they both followed me right in the trap, it was border line hysterical for me, to listen to this guy try to out smart me biblically. He was trying so hard to sound intelligent, and in knowing about Gods word that its was basically a combat mental match between the Pyle cousins Gomer & Goober verses Simon Cowell. They both were clearly out-matched and it was obvious early on, so I made up my mind to play victim and vulnerable. I wanted to see just how foolish non-believers could be, and fools they were. They actually tried to convince me that the bible, Gods Holy Word is full of flaws? I was rather Sad?

We as Christians are to be witnesses to the world, and be willing to suffer persecution for our faith. At the same time, it is not we who save anyone – it is God through His Son, Jesus Christ by the conviction of the Holy Spirit. So at a certain point, when witnessing to anyone, we need to back off kindly and move on. We aren’t to argue with a non-believer. Why shouldn't Christians argue with non-believers? Here are some things that Scripture says about non believers (which definitely applies to those who say they are Christian, but who are not born again) They deny the authority of Scripture. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God…” II Timothy 3:16. “Nevertheless what saith the scripture?...” Galatians 4:30. “Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain,…?”James 4:5. They are no different than the serpent in the garden. “Yea, hath God said,…?” Genesis 3:1

They have no desire to witness to the lost. "Let the redeemed of the LORD say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy;" Psalm 107:2 Their only desire is to edify (build up) themselves by proving that their way is better than everybody else's.It's not others' souls they are concerned about -it's about being "right". "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 16:25.

They follow a false Christ and they are playing church. "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." II Timothy 4:3-4 for example, these are the words of a wolf in sheep’s clothing. This is only a clip of a non-believers argument and this guy even tried to use scripture? O”Ya my friends, Satan believes and trembles and he most certainly knows the bible. Here is a non-believer giving me biblical instruction? This is why we must be very careful who we engage as Christians, especially young Christians, this guy is dangerous to Gods kingdom and he would confuse a babe in Christ. His wrath with be swift and very painful if he does not seek the Lords forgiveness and truly surrender. Remember the Bible tells us not my will, but thy will, be done…


Notice how he contradicts himself? He even uses Gods word to try and make his point referring to “King David”?Amazing?

{“You have to read the Bible with DISCERNMENT though Donnie. This idea that it is "inerrant" and "perfect" and "has authority" etc... These are attributes of GOD... not of the Bible. The Bible is NOT God. It is a book that has INSPIRATION from God, contained within it's pages. But it is not God Himself, nor was it written by God Himself. Men received inspiration from God... but that inspiration was filtered through their own fallen nature and cultural biases, etc... We are not PERFECT instruments of our Father in Heaven. The Bible is replete with failures of the greatest champions of God. We make mistakes. There are mistakes in the Bible... of course there is... Men oversaw its writing, and assembly, and translations, and printing. God did NOT remove any of the author's free will, any more than he removed David's free will, when he decided he wanted the wife of another man, enough to murder to have her. God didn't stop David. God doesn't remove our free will.”}

Notice how he tore the scriptures to pieces to try and prove his point. Why is that? Why shouldn't Christians argue with non-believers? Because, unless God is drawing them, they won't listen to anyone. "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me to draw him..." John 6:44 They are lost, just as the atheist is lost. "For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me." Isaiah 47:10

Scripture tells us we're not to argue with people like this. "Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers." II Timothy 2:14 These are the tares among God's wheat. "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Matthew 13:30

If you are frustrated because you are witnessing to one who is lost, and you feel you’ve exhausted all your efforts and they still deny the truth, God says you should back off and go your way. “And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.” Luke 9:5
Put them in God’s hands. “Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me.” Psalm 35:1. God can deal with them much better than you can.

Jesus himself did not argue (strive, i.e: Greek “erizo”, meaning to wrangle, engage in strife). “He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.” Matthew 12:19. So neither should we. Does that mean we should never discuss our faith with non-believers, or answer questions that they may have, or even give evidence of why they too should become Christians? Not at all. "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" I Peter 3:15.

Keep this rule in mind when witnessing. Let this sink in, because it is extremely important. If the person you are trying to witness to has no questions, and only answers - you are wasting your time. They are not being drawn by the Holy Spirit. Good, well meaning Christians can disagree on some things in a friendly way, and we'll all find out we were wrong on some things and right on others. But who is the final authority? God is. Through His Word. Without His word, it's just one man's opinion against another's.

The sad truth is that because of pride, most of mankind will remain lost for eternity. “Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive (Greek “agonizomai”, meaning to labor fervently or to struggle with difficulties) to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.” Luke 13:23-24

Should you ever give up? No. Even if you have backed off and decided not to strive with someone over their lost condition, there is one very powerful thing you can still do. "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." James 5:16. . . There is one thing you can most certainly mark on your calendar. The Day of Judgment is going to happen, for it is written; and everyone of us will be Judge according to what has been written in“Gods Holy Perfect Word” ~ Donnie Bolena